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Jude is frequently quoted by Jehovah's Witnesses and other Adventist groups as a proof that Christ was, prior to the Incarnation, Michael the archangel. Orthodox Christianity would disagree with that because Jude believed Jesus was "The Lord" and Jude contrasts Michael the archangel with the...

You are no more Trinitarian than a Latter Day Saint or Jehovah's Witness, in fact perhaps less given you believe The Father would have been risked had the Son sinned and eternally died. It's ok Rob, I'd estimate that only about 20% of the Adventist folks I speak with admit that they are not...

Rob, you are not a Trinitarian, probably better for you to let Le Roy to explore this topic.

The problem is that she did Rob. Ellen said Christ was a separate "Being" from the Father here and that Christ was the ONLY Being in all the universe that could enter into all the councils and purposes of God. In case you missed it Ellen just said God was a Being and that Christ was a...

I ran out of time last night but fully intend to address your question. Read James 1, 13-17. Ellen White taught that Christ was drawn or yearned / desired to sin but "resisted" His temptations. As Scripture plainly says a man is only tempted within himself when the temptation is something he...

I asked my questions in an SDA / Ellen White context because the SDA Church isn't Trinitarian and I'm interested in pinpointing why so many SDA's will initially deny this but end up making the identical profession of faith that you did (i.e. that God is conditional). I want to determine why...

I am 100% Trinitarian. SDA theology during the life and ministry of Ellen White through to today taught that the Son of God was a "potential christ", i.e. he (creature-christ) could have sinned, could have fallen & had this hypothetical taken place creature-christ would have rotted or...

Ellen was an anti-Trinitarian so the concepts in DA would naturally be, anti-Trinitarian. The understanding of this aspect of creature-christ's life during the life and ministry of Ellen White was that Christ was elevated by flesh flesh Father and in order to minister to the angels...

Rob, I'm not SDA.

I believe in One God without body and parts, this One God is a single, simple, Spiritual Substance and within this Substance there eternally exist three Persons, God the Father, God the Son & God the Holy Spirit. There is One Mind, One Power, etc. There is not three separate persons all made...

Rob, and any other SDA interested / reading this thread. When asked about the potentiality of God eternally ceasing to exist due to a fault in Character the prevailing wisdom of the SDA Church is well articulated by Rob. I applaud Rob for being honest about this - it generally takes much...

Doesn't Seventh-day Adventist theology affirm that Christ was turned into an angel between the time of Lucifer's initial rebellion in heaven and remained an archangel up until the point of the Incarnation? While somewhat complicated the teaching can be studied at the following link...

Again, that's as anti-Trinitarian as it gets Rob. Mormons have the identical understanding as you do yet Mormons are very upfront about their church being NON-Trinitarian. I'm perplexed as to why Seventh-day Adventists don't adopt the Mormon position of honesty in this area. A female dog is a...

Hi Rob, I'll do my best to be charitable and not be too long winded here. If I'm not mistaken you said Christ was "part of the Godhead", right? If Arius (& Ellen White's) hypothetical scenario of the Son of God sinning would have been realized you, Ellen & Arius all affirm that part of the...

The anti-Trinitarian Pioneers developed "THE PERSONALITY OF GOD" Doctrine and defined it with precise language so there would be no ambiguity by what they were teaching. Ellen White confirmed their beliefs as correct with her prophetic gift. After years of hammering this Doctrine into...

Chief, I appreciate your thoughtful answers. I'd like to go slow here to make sure I'm understanding what you're saying. I'll share a very short video of the Trinitarian concept of God, Before we proceed could let me know if you agree with what this video is saying?

Here is the 1st part of your post. Seventh-day Adventist Dogma views Jesus as a man while from the Incarnation onward - this isn't like what the Christadelphians believe - it is what the Christadelphians believe. SDA's openly affirm the Kenotic Heresy whereby they teach that Christ "emptied...

Elder Canright rough drafted the Personality of God article and then he [Canright] worshipped at the family altar of Ellen & James White and subsequent to that Ellen & James White "revised" Canright's article so that it read the way it did in that Sabbath Herald. Below is the link to the...

Rob, take a deep breath and relax. The following should help you understand where I'm coming from. Ellen White is DIRECTLY responsible for that article in the Sabbath Herald - the Sabbath Herald itself boasts of this fact. The "PERSONALITY OF GOD" was, according to Ellen White a Pillar...

Hi Chief, you said: I'm attempting to sort out what you said above. Myself, I could word what you said in the same way. The part I'm trying to understand is the Adventist teaching that the Son of God is a separate "Being" from the God The Father and that hypothetical situations within...